
Rian O'Shea
Stratos Manufacturing and Logistics
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Posted - 2011.01.04 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: Ziaxi The only way anyone will believe you is if you request full disclosure from the GMs on the forums. Otherwise, you bought ISK.
This, please request full disclosure in the forums.
Yeah, we could do with another public lynching provided by CCP themselves.
--- The whole problem with the universe is that fools and fanatics are always certain of themselves, but wiser people are full of doubt. |

Rian O'Shea
Stratos Manufacturing and Logistics
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Posted - 2011.01.04 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ranka Mei From a legal perspective, I must say that I'm indeed a little worried about the way CCP accuses/bans people. I mean, if you engaged in RMT, you're going down -- as you should. But like with any accused in any civilized system of Law, there ought to be a way to defend yourself, prior to CCP pronouncing a guilty verdict. Basically we trust them, almost implicitly, because of the old "They wouldn't just ban you if you were innocent!" mantra. But when CCP starts making mistakes -- and it would seem they really do, from time to time -- then it becomes bothersome. Yes, it's just a game; but it's also something people pour subscription fees into, every month. So it's not all that unreasonable that people should at least be granted a fair hearing.
Fat chance of it happening, of course, but I wouldn't mind if the CSM brought up the issue one day.
P.S. I occassionally send large amounts of money to an indy alt of mine. Usually so she can buy stuff for me, and transport it with the Orca; or some other perfectly legit reason. I always hope CCP is so clever as to grasp that these are alts of mine, paid with the same credit card, and played from the same IP address. But I'd hate to think I could become the victim of CCP's wanton banning hammer one day, and be stuck without a means to defend myself. And I'm just seeing too many people claiming to be falsely accused, of late.
At the very least I can only urge CCP to be fair about banning people, and to not just assume guilt.
I bolded the important bit, you (and lots of people) have transferred billions upon billions between alts, friends and corp members. Yet, magically, never get accused of RMT or the like. the only situation I ever heard of was a production corp who's CEO had bought isk "injecting" it into the corp buying BPO's and all that, thus infecting his corp members as (per normal) there's all kinds of isk streams going back and forth in such a corp. Afaik, CCP removed the isk and items bought with said isk but left it at that.
While I'm no "trust the government" type I DO trust CCP in this simply because they're VERY careful with banning (as someone pointed out in this thread) to make sure they don't accidentally get the wrong guy. IF you get accused/caught there's an an overwhelming case going against you.
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